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"Echo" (black male) -- SOLD
(Link to Litter's Home Page)
This black and rust male is now living with Greg and family in southeast Florida.
June 18, 2008 -
June 17, 2008 -
"Hi Laura,
We are interested in Echo. Is he still available and if so how would you like me to get my deposit to you?
We need a friendly dog who will get along with children and a female who is currently the dominant dog in the house. I have had three dobes (2 males and a female) in the past. Our 4 year old female is fixed (and sweet as pie). We have lots of land for exercise and are located in southeast Florida. Any other information you may need or would like to supply would be great. Can you give me an idea of total cost shipped to either Palm Beach or Fort Lauderdale. Thanks in advance!
Greg"
RESPONSE:
"Hi,
I am so glad you are interested in Echo! He is such a sweetie and I think will look a lot like his daddy. He is still available as we have not had a deposit placed on him yet. Laura recommends you and so we will give you first dibs on him. I am also excited that he will go to a full family of humans and canines, this is very important to keep dobes well socialized and a pride to their breed.
If you have a paypal account we can send you an invoice via paypal and once the payment clears we can mark him as sold and start making preparations for his transition to your home.
Because you live so far away, we can ship via the airlines unless you would prefer to make a special trip to Texas for him. Unfortunately, shipping is not included in the $850. I believe Laura ships for about $315 so it should be close to the same cost from here. If you are still interested, we can certainly get it all worked out. Thanks so much--Lora Cottle"
SHIPPING INFO:
"Here is the shipping information. We will be shipping with Continental Airlines. They are the only airlines that have a temperature controlled cargo department. They also have special staff that ensure the puppy is the last 'person' on and the first 'person' off. If there are any layovers they will take the puppy inside the terminal and ensure the puppy has food and water. They have a special department that handles all the animals that ride on their planes and by speaking with them it seems to be a very detailed and organized program.
By shipping the puppy via Continental; he/she will arrive in a medium sized kennel that will allow enough room for him/her to move around and be comfortable. They will also have a collar and leash so that will be able to be walked and take care of 'business' if they need out. The puppy will have a certificate of health from their veterinarian and all shots up to that point. The shipping will cost $350.
Echo is more laid back and enjoys eating, sleep, and lay on the nice cool tile. Echo is more "solid" and not as vocal as Little G or Foxy, but by the time he is a year old I don't think he will need to be. He is a lot like his Dad ... he seems to be laying there asleep without a care in the world, but when it is time to play he instantly jumps in the middle.
Thank you and please feel free to email with any questions regarding the puppies.
Sincerely,
Jeremiah Cottle"
REPLY BACK:
"Hello Jeremiah!
Thank you for the comprehensive information regarding purchase and shipping of the puppies. Would it be possible for you to send more pics of Echo? We are all very excited and can't wait to see him. When will Echo be available? Can you send me a Paypal invoice for a deposit so we can call Echo 'ours'. Also, do you crate train and or housebreak the pups?
Thanks,
Greg"
June 18, 2008 -
"Hey Greg,
I took the camera outside today when we were playing with the puppies in the yard. ((See above and on Litter's Home Page)) He was getting after it this morning as you will be able to tell.
About crate training/house breaking ... here is how it works in our home:
About 6am I get up for the day and let Xzus and Athena (the puppies parents) out of the house to run, stretch and eat breakfast. While they are doing that I take the puppies outside in the yard and let them run, stretch and play in the puppy pen. I mainly do this because they are sleeping hard until Athena wakes up (when I wake up) and the first thing the pups need to do is use the restroom (just like us). This gets them used to going outside right away. They get to stay outside and play for about 3-4 hours and then I bring them in before it gets above 85 degrees.
By this time the puppies are worn out a ready for another feeding and a nap. At about 4-5pm I take them outside again to let them stretch, play, and use the potty again, but only let them stay about 30-45 minutes because of the heat. They come in and eat/sleep some more. At about 7pm we all go outside again for about 2-2.5 hours; since it is nice and cool again it gives them a good chance to get all that energy out again and get ready for the night. After that Xzus, Athena, and the puppies all come in for the night and the little ones get warm milk and snuggles.
I try to keep the puppies and Xzus/Athena inside when it is super hot. They are just as much part of my family as my kids, and I do not want anything bad to happen to them.
On a personal note; one of the first things that attracted me to Dobes was that they were short haired and very clean. Another bonus is they are excellent indoor/outdoor dogs ... unlike most boxers, pits, and other med-large dogs they know when to relax. When I come inside from working; Xzus waits at the door ... I give him permission to come inside (he knows he has to be invited - this keeps him from knocking any of the kids down as they come in). After he has permission he walks straight to his corner and plops down on the cool tile beside his bed. He will stay there and rest/sleep until someone calls him or he hears the door handle jiggle. If someone is heading out he is right there beside them ready to go with them ... it is really nice. He will get up and play if you want him too, but he prefers to rest inside and play outside (this is my preference too). Athena is like this as well.
As for crate training them its a good practice, and I highly recommend it. I had a crate for Xzus when he was a puppy and that was his 'safe place'. He went there to sleep or any time I had to leave the house. I never punished him and put him in his 'safe place' because I did not want him to associate it with punishment. When Xzus was in his crate he would not potty unless he just could not hold it any longer. As a young puppy I alway took him outside before putting him in the crate and he went outside right after I got home. After his first couple of weeks, and as his bladder grew there were no accidents. The puppies are already picking up on this. They know they get plenty of chances to go outside. They always go outside for a restroom break before they eat or go to bed. Inside they have a 4'x8' pen with two large potty pads (2'x2'). During the night they use the potty pads the majority of the time ... there are still plenty of accidents but each day more and more are landing on the pads or outside.
I cannot predict the future, but it will be in my best interest if they are potty trained by the time they are ready to travel. That would make my mornings a lot easier. I do recommend that you use crate training when Echo comes to your house ... after he is an adult it may not be necessary. I leave Xzus in the house when I have to go to town for a few hours simply because he enjoys to cool floor. I trust him and he is responsible.... I believe with attention and training any puppy can achieve that as well.
Sorry for the small novel, but I hope this has put some ideas in your head. If you have any questions at all please feel free to ask. I will also have the invoice heading you way right after this email goes through.
Take care,
Jeremiah"
June 19, 2008 -
"Hi Jeremiah,
Thank you for the highly detailed description of Echo's daily routine. Sounds like you have a great family and a fantastic environment to raise the pups. I cannot get over how good looking his parents are! The pictures are great. My kids are going crazy posting them on their web sites and printing them out for friends to see. I am glad you crate train. Question, do you think it would be a good idea for you to send me one of Echo's toys so I can introduce the scent to our female Doberman, who happens to not like a lot of other dogs? I think the scent may familiarize her with what is to come in a few weeks. I will also get the deposit paid today to formalize everything. Also, do you have an idea of what week the pup will ship? Thanks again for all of your kind support. We are very excited and will provide a fabulous home for Echo. Also, please feel free to call me anytime to discuss particulars. Email is just so, distant.
Best regards,
Greg"
RESPONSE:
"Echo will be 8 weeks old on July 12; so any time after that he is able to fly out. The 12th falls on a Saturday so I think the week of the 14th through the 18th would be the best time for him to take off. With that huge email last night I can't believe I forgot to mention the dates ... sorry.
As for getting familiar with Echo's scent; it wouldn't hurt anything, but I don't know how much it would help. If you took Echo's towel and placed it in his "safe place" where his crate is going to go, it might help your dog. I would place it in a box or up on a shelf so she couldn't get. That way when he comes home, she will already register that corner with him.... If it was Xzus he would probably just walk over there and pee on it though!
What has always worked with us is keeping them separated for a day or two. Allow them to get close to each other, but have either one in a crate or a baby-gate between them. We haven't had any problems doing this ... once Xzus or Athena realize that this "new thing" is important to us and we are protecting it; they welcome it into the family as well.
I have always made it a point to introduce them to new things that will be with us (dog, cat, baby, etc) so that they know it is something that I approve of and that the "pack leader" has spoken. I believe that is one of the reasonS I haven't had a problem with them destroying anything in the house or hurting any of the animals around the farm here (cat, cows, horse, etc). This is what has worked for us and each person/dog has their own way of training. I will give you a call when I have the kids under control and things settle down.
Thanks,
Jeremiah"
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